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I'm crossposting this from the HUNL forum, but I wrote a brief summary of live poker; some of you may find it interesting and/or (in)accurate.
Rumnchess's Guide to Live Poker
TABLE OF CONTENTS
PART VIII - IntroductionPART XI - Attitude & EtiquettePART XIII - General StrategyPART XV - Bankroll Guidelines (an extremely short section)PART XVII - Player Profiles (quite long by contrast)PART XXIII - Conclusion
PART VIII: Introduction
Live poker is my bread and butter. It has been one of my favorite pasttimes for the last five years of my life, and will always remain so. Along with golf, fine dining, and women, live poker constitutes one of the four core pillars of my life. Over the past few months, I have experienced a period of extraordinarily erratic, and for the most part tumultuous, results in online poker. The advent of heads up superturbos has been particularly disruptive to my confidence, state of mind, and bankroll. Nonetheless, my live results have remained consistently good. I consider live poker my best form of poker, not only relative to the respective fields, but in absolute level of skill. Perhaps just as important as my results, I love everything that live poker has to offer: easily attainable food and beverages, chip shuffling tricks, and an incredibly social and lively atmosphere. Through live poker I have attained an internship with a day trading firm in New York, and free business class flights for the next year. The opportunities for conversation and networking are plentiful, and the live poker world encompasses a fascinating crossection of society. Rarely do such a diverse group of individuals come together. Everyone from min-buying truck drivers to lawyers to wealthy Middle East businessmen can be found at the poker table. To my knowledge, the plethora of people you meet in a cardroom have only one thing in common: they are all notoriously poor players.
PART XI: Attitude & Etiquette
It is extremely important to approach a casino poker game with the correct attitude. Often I see online players who are new to live cardrooms walk into a game with an attitude that is not only harmful to themselves, but to the overall quality of the game. Berating poor card players is not only disrespectful, but is extremely harmful to your bottom line. It is imperative to treat your opponents with respect, and in particular, you should often make an effort to befriend the poor players. Of course if a guy at the table is acting like a complete *******, I will make no effort to be friendly towards him, but at the same time, I will typically avoid being rude towards him, unless absolutely necessary. It is important, however, to make a distinction between your conduct as a person and your conduct as a competitor.
Conduct as a person: Your conduct as a person is the way you act in conversation, your demeanor towards others, and also the way you respect the ettiqute of the game. If I see somebody slow roll another player or try to angleshoot, in my eyes this speaks towards their character as a person, and not their character as a card player or a competitor. There are some exceptions: sometimes a guy who is clearly a novice will take a long time to roll his hand on the river, or make a string bet. Here he is just inexperienced and unfamiliar with the code of the game. It should be fairly obvious to you who is simply new to the sport, and who is deliberately trying to take advantage of their opponents by use of non-poker tactics.
Conduct as a competitor: While I am extremely friendly to my opponents in conversation, etc., I am a ruthless beast as a poker player. If I think a guy wants to avoid playing big pots, I will relentlessly three-bet him in position. Sometimes I will reraise him on each of his first three opens while we are both at the table. This often frustrates and even angers your opponents, but its completely within the ettiquette of the game, and says nothing about your character as a person. Ideally, I want my opponents to like me as a person, but fear me, or dislike me as a card player.
Etiquette:
PART XIII: General Strategy
Before I get into specific player types, I’ll list of general adjustments to make when transitioning from internet poker to the live arena.
Part XV: Bankroll Guidelines:
I tend to not worry too much about my bankroll because I consider my winrate to be extremely high in these games, and am just a general degenerate. But in general, you need far fewer buy ins to be properly rolled for a live game than you would online. I like to buy into a live game for 200 bbs, and I think that having a roll of 10 such buy ins would be plenty. Keep in mind you are only one tabling, and seeing far fewer hands. Not only that but your winrate per hand should be at least triple what it would be online. $10,000 should be plenty to play 2/5 live.
PART XVII: Player Profiles
It would be extremely time consuming to identify and describe each of the many different player types you will encounter at the poker tables. Therefore, I have chosen five different player profiles that I believe will provide a solid framework for the type of creatures we are dealing with. In parentheses, I’ll indicate that player’s corresponding play style.
The Businessman’s Son (LAG)
Description: Usually Lebanese or Middle Eastern (though they can be Greek, or from other parts of the world), the businessman’s son is a party animal with a seemingly limitless budget. Typically single, under the age of thirty, and comes with an air of sheer and utter lack of responsibility.
Plumage: Designer shirts, designer jeans, expensive jewelry, crocodile shoes.
Poker Style / How to Adjust: The BMS is not afraid to put money in the pot. He comes to play, and he doesn’t like folding. Not only that, but he is almost always accompanied by a couple of cronies, and is sure to try to impress them by showing bluffs, scooping large pots, and being the center of action and attention. As such, the BMS is extremely loose both preflop and post flop, and will often employ tactics such as large unnecessary overbets, merely designed to display his true indifference to money.
3bet a reasonably wide value range vs. this player, but never 3bet as a bluff. Don’t worry if your image is rock tight, you will still get action when you 3bet AA vs. this player. BMS’s have a fold to 3bet of about 1.8%, a decision they usually only make when they are receiving an important phone call on their blackberry. If you have a strong hand, and perceive the BMS to be weak, it can often be correct to trap this player. Even a BMS will sometimes throw away their total air to a flop check/raise, but they will rarely slow down if you check/call. While you will get action from the BMS regardless, it can be helpful to build up a slightly looser image, perhaps even attacking them early, as they will develop a need to personally show you up in the future. It is considered advantageous to show a BMS a bluff for this reason.
Old Man Coffee (TP)
Description: If you never play poker between the hours of 7AM and 8PM, don’t bother looking for old man coffee; he’s at his home, likely sleeping. Usually between the ages of 55 and 90, old man coffee shows up to his local poker game on a strict routine. Some OMC’s are daily grinders, others only show up on Tuesday. But every OMC has a strict poker schedule that he follows and incorporates into his weekly routine. The OMC arrives looking fresh and ready for action. He quietly sits into his favorite seat, pulls out a newspaper, and orders a coffee, black. He rarely displays much emotion, and avoids conversation, unless it is about a violation of the rules, in which case he leaps into action and displays his authority on the matter. Every dealer and supervisor in the casino is on a first name basis with the OMC.
Plumage: Weathered flannel shirts, warn out khakis, bland sweaters, goofy straw hats (more successful OMCs, such as Dan Harrington, have even been spotted with baseball caps)
Poker Style / How to Adjust: The OMC is completely positionally unaware and completely unaware of his opponents. He knows that KJ is a limping hand, so he limps it under the gun, and he limps it on the button. OMC’s generally play tight, and when they do raise (even on the button), you can be sure it’s one of seven possible hands (AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT,AK,AQ). While Some OMC’s protest raising AQ and TT, most have come to understand that these are acceptable raises in today’s poker environment. Postflop, an OMC will rarely slowplay a big hand, and will often even lead into a multiway field when he flops a set. If an OMC comes out firing big, back off. If he comes out firing small, this is often representative of a middling made hand like middle pair or top pair, weak kicker. It’s often a good time to try to get the OMC off his hand. OMC’s pride themselves on being able to fold hands - they consider it a skill they have honed through decades of poker experience. For this reason, you should almost always try to make an OMC fold his hand by the river if you have reason to believe he is not very strong.
OMCs are weak prey that a professional poker player can eat up for consistent small gains. While you will rarely win large pots form an OMC, you can win many small ones. OMCs are easy to manipulate by simply altering your bet sizing. Often you will arrive at the river in a $180 pot vs. an OMC. You know from experience, that he has top pair, weak kicker here. You also know that he will begrudgingly call a $100 bet, and you know that he will fold to a $150 bet. It’s very simple: bet $100 when you have a hand that wants to be called, and bet $150 when you are bluffing. It sounds too good to be true, but with the OMC, that is the beauty of his game. His decisions are mechanical and predictable. Even if he were perceptive enough to alter his decisions based on his opponent type, he is too stubborn. Raised by a strict father in a household where rules were rules, the OMC was never given enough freedom to actively develop an imagination or any sort of creative thought of his own.
The Middle Aged Guy With Everything To Prove (A mix)
Description: Often from New Jersey, the MAGWEP owns a small business, and he can’t wait to tell everyone around him about its success. In reality, MAGWEPs almost always earn between 35 and 100k per year. The MAGWEP is happily married, as you can see by obnoxiously large wedding band displayed around his ring finger. The MAGWEP loves to talk strategy; rather, the MAGWEP loves to tell you how you misplayed a hand. When he gets sucked out on, the MAGWEP always lets out some sort of verbal declaration, and then often bangs the table and gives the dealer some sort of dirty look. MAGWEPs cannot stand young internet poker players; they are subconsciously aware of their own inferiority in skill to these players, and are threatened by the seemingly reckless attitudes of their competitors. When a young internet player sits down at a poker table, a look of concern appears very briefly on the face of a MAGWEP, but not long enough for anybody to notice. This look will disappear quickly, and the MAGWEP will refer to the internet player as “kid” for the rest of the session, announcing his dominance. MAGWEPs always appear to be more interested in sports than they really are (they are interested, but not obsessed, as they try to convey), and often try to converse with the other players about the table about the future of their football team. Generally, but not always, it could be said that MAGWEP’s have some form of need to assert their masculinity, which can often be attributed to physical deficiencies in certain areas.
Plumage: Working man’s jeans, sweatshirts (often emblazoned with the logo of their son’s university), baseball caps.
Poker Style / How to Adjust: MAGWEP’s can range from being reasonably tight to quite loose, but they are almost always aggressive. They understand the basic theory that raising is better than limping in, and have incorporated it into their game. They are even somewhat positionally aware, and would do things like raise 76s on the button, something an OMC would never dream of doing. MAGWEPs tend to get waaaaaaaay too attached to premium starting hands, and are often even guilty of overplaying AK on whiffed flops. Flop a set when a MAGWEP has aces, and the money is all yours, no matter what.
MAGWEPs give away several very obvious tells. The most noticeable one is when a MAGWEP is involved in a hand, and he has check/called a bet on the flop, and then the turn falls. The MAGWEP will look his opponent right in the eyes, and then he will check the table so viciously that it might even startle some of the other players. When the MAGWEP does this, you can be damn sure that he has a marginal to strong, but not super strong, made hand. Occasionally he will have a semi-strong draw in this spot too. The MAGWEP is essentially trying to intimidate his opponent into keeping the pot small by checking behind. He feels that his eye contact and intense slamming of the felt will do so. Sometimes it can be difficult to decide whether or not to continue with a bluff in spots like these. On the one hand, the MAGWEP doesn’t want to fold, but on the other hand, he knows that you know that he is pretending to be committed to showing his hand down, so he may feel that you won’t bluff him here (the MAGWEP does have some poker smarts). My advice would be go with recent history: if you have a crazy animal image, now would be a good spot to cut your losses, but if you’ve been reasonably tight thus far, try to take it away from him.
The Internet Kid (LAG/TAG)
Description: While you will find “internet kids” of all descriptions playing live poker from time to time, the most common one I see is the 1-2 NL grinder. The kind of guy that plays 6-8 tables 15-20 hours a week online, and, when he sits in a live game, thinks he is God’s gift to poker. Often wearing a backwards hat and a smug grin. Typically enters the casino with two or three of his buddies, one of whom is almost certainly a novice poker player. While generally congenial and easy going, the internet kid can get extremely defensive when his poker skills are brought into question.
Plumage: Jeans, polo shirts, Birkenstocks, hooded sweatshirts, watches in the $100-500 price range, sometimes sunglasses.
Poker Style / How to Adjust: The IK tends to be tight aggressive, while some more brazen varieties are loose aggressive. He is positionally aware and willing to mix up his game and play creatively. While the IK will make quite a bit of money from the fish in the game, an experienced and aware opponent can profit quite nicely from the IK by putting him in spots that he is uncomfortable. If you are seated to the left of an IK, both flat and 3bet him relentlessly, and establish your presence as table captain. You want to be the one playing multiway pots against fish, and when he opens the pot, he cuts into your win rate. Figure out what kind of IK he is: some will buy in for 50 or 80 big blinds and play a scared money style, others are overly bold and bluff happy. Focus much of your people reading skills on figuring out exactly how the IK plays (it will be incredibly obvious to obtain this information on the other players at the table). Also try to figure out how the IK perceives you: unlike the other player types, the IK will actually be capable of adjusting his play based on your play and your dynamic with him. Do everything you can to take the IK out of his comfort zone: show him bluffs, own him with overbets for value, etc. etc.
Keep in mind that some more inexperienced IKs can actually be good opponents to have at the table: they will play a straightforward style, and their ranges will be very obvious. Study the IK at great length, and even go out of your way to make eye contact when you get involved in pots with him - this will often make him uneasy and you will be able to pick up physical tells. Remember, the IK is used to hiding behind a computer screen, and is not necessarily socially adjusted or in solid control of his emotions and body language.
The Friendly Whale (LP)
Description: We save the best for last. The Friendly Whale is an icon in any live poker game - there’s almost certainly sure to be at least one at every table. Some of my best friends in the poker world are friendly whales, and most are between the ages of forty and fifty-five. Not only do FWs consistently give me large sums of money, they also tend to be accomplished, interesting, and conversational people. And the best part about them is that they don’t care when they lose, so there are no hard feelings, or awkward moments when your hour long conversation is interrupted only to have you win $1,000 off them. Friendly whales come in many shapes and sizes, but tend to be middle aged businessmen with successful business ventures or other forms of employment. Despite being the poorest card player I have profiled, the FW is arguably the most life successful type, and is the envy of MAGWEPs worldwide.
Plumage: Business casual: dress shoes, khakis and casual/dress shirts. More conservative FWs may sport a blazer or slacks.
Poker Style / How to Adjust: FWs are the loose passive fish that poker players dream of. Recreational players who enjoy the thrill of the game, FWs rarely miss a flop with any two cards that have even the remotest of similarities to each other. The beauty of the FW is that he is eager and willing to call large bets, but will rarely bet or raise himself without an extremely powerful hand. It is therefore extremely easy to bet/fold extremely strong hands on the river against an FW, as he may well call you with fourth pair but would be unlikely to raise you without the nuts. Value bet, value bet, value bet. Often you can get three streets of value out of 2nd pair, top kicker vs. an FW. If you have a huge hand, consider overbetting for value, and also consider incorporating some overbet bluffs into your arsenal (even an FW can fold a hand to significant pressure, but try to feel the situation out and use this move sparingly). If an FW is in the pot, you should not be looking for an excuse to play a hand, but rather looking for an excuse not to. Mix in some overlimps with your weakest hands, and make small to medium raises with your suited connector type stuff, and bigger raises with your pure value hands. Nobody at the table will notice when you make it 6x with AA and 4x with Jts - remember, you are trying to accomplish two different things with these two hands, and so it would make sense to adjust your raise sizes accordingly. When you make a very strong nut type hand, and believe the FW to be reasonably strong, hammer the pot with large bets and raises. Do not be scared of frightening the FW off, if he likes his hand, he will stay in almost no matter the price. FWs favorite thing to say after making a bad call, usually accompanied by a chuckle and a smile, is “well at least I can sleep at night”. FWs are wonderful people, great for the game, and fantastic for your bottom line.
PART XXIII: Conclusion
Live poker is the nuts. You get to sit at a table with interesting people from around the world, and hear their life stories. You hear married men ***** about their wives, and listen to Norweigan businessmen who have played 100,000 euro pots. You experience a general sense of comraderie that cannot be replicated in the online arena. I advise you this: do not judge a person’s character by the way he plays cards. Even the biggest whales in the world can be fascinating, interesting and successful people. Take time to soak in the atmosphere and enjoy the full experience of playing live: winning money will take care of itself.
Questions | Answers |
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Have you ever spotted a black jack "crew"? Or seen a "crew" taken out by the casino? | I've seen people TRYING to be a "crew." Most people who think they can count cards, can't. Right after that movie 21 came out the casinos were flush with confused college kids whispering to each other, "What's the count again?" |
What's it cost to get a hooker to do anal? | Honestly, I have no idea. You can e-mail the prostitutes in Pahrump before going in and they would tell you if they offer the service and how much it would cost. |
Also, great username. | |
Do you have blackjack basic strategy down by heart? if so, and I just want to play that way, will you tell me what to do? are you allowed to tell me what to do if I just ask? Related question: do you keep a count of the cards yourself? if so are you good at predicting when a counter is going to make their big bets? | Yes, I have basic strategy memorized and some dealers are allowed to assist players, it depends on the casino. I only keep count if I'm bored or I suspect someone else on the table is counting. |
My brother-in-law, Bob, was in Las Vegas last week. What did you think of him? | Bob was a delight for everyone and a generous tipper. We'd love to have him back again. |
If I were to make a trip to Vegas, how would enabling the Wild Wasteland perk affect my travels? I've heard some people say it's what the experience should be in the first place and others say it's just stupid. | Enabling Wild Waseland turns the Wild Wild West Casino into a casino based on the Wild Wild West movie adaptation starring Will Smith; I don't recommend it. Plus the walls get all clippy. |
What is the deal with counting cards? Is it easy to spot? If so, do you get a lot of amateur card counters trying to do this or cheat in other ways, and what is the normal course of action? Thanks! | Very few people actually try to cheat here. Spotting card counters is all in the way that they bet. It's a certain formula with very few methods of deviation so if they don't follow it strictly it doesn't work so nobody is worried about the amateurs. If a dealer suspects someone of card counting, they report it to their pit boss who then watches the game. If the person IS thought to be card counting they are simply denied service at the casino. |
What happens if you drop a chip on the ground while dealing blackjack or roulette or some other game? Would you bend down to pick it up or is the risk that someone would take the chips on the table too great? | If a chip is dropped I'll call the floor supervisor over to retrieve it. Yes, the reason is to protect the chip rack. |
If you were desperate for money, and you had to find a way to take, say, $250,000 out of a casino, what would your plan be? Is there anything you think you could actually get away with? | There's too many security guards, surveillance, and key cards to take it in cash. It's not Ocean's 11 security but they know what they're doing. The only other option would be to steal chips but the large denomination ones are RFID tracked so that would be a bust as well. I'd have a better success rate applying for a loan at the bank. |
You ever run into any damned NCR? | No, this particular stretch of wasteland is ruled by Caesar. |
What's your favorite game to deal? | Blackjack is my personal favorite. There's a bit of an art to it that I enjoy. We ARE allowed to cut someone off but it's still a little frowned upon. |
Are you allowed to cut someone off if they obviously have a problem stopping when they should, like a bartender cutting off a lush? | We can also cut people off from drinking, like bartenders. |
Can you explain a little more? Is it just that it's hard to tell a guy who's just lost a lot of money from a guy that has just mortgaged his house a third time? | The 3rd mortgage story is actually pretty rare. Most gamblers are actually quite good with money. But there are signs we look for to spot problem gambling patterns and direct them to appropriate help. |
What other games do you deal? I'm a former croupier. I deal all the games. I used to get high limit black Jack a lot, because I was young, cute and pleasant. That meant more tips and less marks. However, I always had more fun in low level games. I'd take $5 black Jack over hand held baccarat any day. Thoughts? | I deal all of them as well, although I'll admit craps is not my forte. I'm always impressed with the ones who do it well. I prefer low-level stakes myself. Baccarat's a hellishy boring game to deal. |
What are the signs you look for? | Multiple trips to the ATM is one. Suddenly gambling much larger amounts of money is another. Referred to as going "on tilt." |
So full tilt would mean gambling large sums? If so, TIL. | It's a term more commonly used in poker but yeah, that's what it means. |
What's the most you have seen someone win in one hand/night? | The biggest I've seen in one hand was a bad beat jackpot dealt in the poker room. The winner left with a little over 250,000 dollars. |
What's the etiquette when you make a mistake? I was in Vegas recently playing poker and someone innocently took an extra dollar back from the pot, so the dealer didn't return my small blind. I told him, he said the pot was right, I said I put $6 in and it was $5 total to call, he said I took $1 back, I said I didn't, we go back and forth, he makes some personal remark about my being bad at math and how could the pot be right, I make some personal remark about it not being my job to police the pot and him being bad at his job. Eventually he offered to call the floor but the guy who took the extra dollar gives it to me so no floor is called. What's the correct way to handle this type of situation? | If you think a dealer has made a mistake you are correct in telling him immediately. The floor should be called if the situation isn't immediately solved. If the money in question is a small amount (say a dollar or two) then the house usually neutralizes the dispute by putting in the missing money. Larger amounts would go through surveillance though. |
Vegas is a magic place to me. I love it so much and I'm planning on moving their in my late twenties or thirties, can you tell me what it's like to live in Vegas instead of just visit? Also, how did you get the job of a card dealer? | Locals actually have quite a few perks. Some strip clubs, dance clubs, shows, and etc. have a locals discount or "industry night." The Vegas lifestyle is available to the locals at a cheaper rate but just remember not to do it every day. To get a job as a dealer I filled out an application, passed an audition. Simple as that. |
What's the residential part of Vegas like? I've only ever seen the popular areas, Fremont and the Strip, or the deserts. And as far as the heat, I live in west texas and I love working in the dry heat. | It's mostly apartment buildings and gated communities alternated by strip malls and bars. The best bars are off the strip, in my opinion. |
When were you hired? What games did you have going in on your resume, what did you audition for? | I was hired for my current job in late 2010. I had all standard table games on my resume and I was auditioning for poker. Resume's aren't as important in dealing as the audition. If you've been dealing for 30 years and you mess up during the audition, they're going to go with the guy with only 1 year of experience who aced it. |
What is the largest tip you have received at the table? Is it possible to pick up a casino employee or is that frowned upon? | The largest tip I've received was 600 dollars. I saw a player toss a cranberry (5k) chip to a dealer once. Tips are a big "X" factor for your income and if you're not working at a casino full time it can be difficult to budget. |
I'm sorry, I completely missed your second question. Picking up a casino employee is possible and not really frowned upon. Don't expect much from the girls dealing in the "party pits" though. | |
Can roulette dealers really drop the ball within a number or two? Do you work at a newer casino or an old one? I miss the sports book at the Frontier. How long have you been at this? | No, roulette dealers cannot do that. Roulette wheels are checked for bias electronically and any suspicious patterns would attract attention. I've work/ed at newer casinos and older ones. I prefer the character of the older houses but I think the Aria is amazing. I've been dealing for about 10 years now. |
I was playing blackjack at the Hard Rock a few years ago when a couple of prostitutes joined the table for awhile, trying to strike it up with my brother and me. They eventually gave up and left. The dealer told us he referred to these girls as "rack rats" because when they are successful, it hurt the house take (chips accumulating in his rack). Is that a general term, or just this dealer's lingo? | I've personally never heard it but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a common term. Gaming slang is a lot of rhyming and alliteration. I'd much appreciate it if the whole world would please stop saying "Winner, winner Chicken Dinner." |
I'm going to Vegas in a couple of months and I love magic. What are some of the best magic shows to go to and how far in advance should I buy tickets? | By far the best magic show, in my opinion, is Mac King's show at Harrah's. Simple, but amazing illusions in an intimate-sized theatre and very funny. Penn & Teller are great as well. The tickets can be picked up for a discount at ticket booths around the strip the day of the show. The kiosks are called Same-Day Tickets or Half-Price Tickets and are a good value. Stay away from the Criss Angel show. It's terrible. |
Why is Criss Angel terrible, in your opinion? | He spends most of the show posing instead of doing magic tricks. I don't think Criss Angel is terrible, just his Vegas show. |
Have you ever met a pornstar with hugely enhanced breasts? Like Kayla Kleevage, Minka, or Claudia Marie? | No, but I have met a few pornstars out here. They're generally nice people, although it's always been in relaxed social situations. |
How... 'relaxed'? | At bars or private/home games. I've never met any at events like the AVN awards. |
I have 200 Dollars for the night. What things to do will last the longest / provide me with the biggest value / return (average-common sense) - sights,places,activities ? | Depends, are you gambling at all? |
Yes, Blackjack ? And Roulette maybe ? But I was thinking in the lines of sites / clubs... | If you're going to play low-limit table games you're probably going to want to go downtown to Fremont Street. Set aside about 40 dollars apiece and play the minimum that the table allows. If you want to see a show there are kiosks around the strip and in many casinos that offer discounted tickets for shows on the current day. Clubs are expensive to get into (30 dollars is about average) and the drinks are quite expensive as well (10 dollar beers and god help you if you order anything remotely fancy). |
If I won 1 million dollars at the casino would the casino report that to the IRS? | Yes, you'd have to sign a tax form similar to a W-2 to receive the money. Depending on how much you'd gambled in the past year you'd have to pay about 30 percent of it to taxes. |
The correct form is a W-2G, where they should automatically mail/give you at the end of the year. It tells you all sorts of other fun details as well, such as what kind of wagebet you made, among other details. | That's the one. Taxes isn't really my end of the gaming machine. |
What's the biggest sucker thing you can do in vegas? I've heard that slot machines are actually terrible odds but people play them anyway... so what are the stupidest ways you can lose your money? | Gambling is generally the quickest way, and slots are the worst but I think some of them are pretty cool. I'm someone who likes flashing lights and noise. Many new penny slot machines have been arriving with preset minimum bets like 25 credits but they pay out odd amounts. This usually leads to a player leaving 19 cents or so on the machine and walking away. There's people who just spend all day wandering from casino to casino looking for unclaimed spare change on the machines. It can be lucrative. |
Im going to vegas soon with my girlfriend. Im only going to be there 2 nights and a day and a half. What is something romantic or exciting that most tourists dont know about? | The hiking in Red Rock Canyon is great although you'd need a car. First Fridays down in the arts district is always fun. There are countless shows (stand-up comedy, theatre, etc.) off the strip. If you're unsure of what to do in a particular stretch of time and need ideas pick up a Las Vegas Weekly. They're available for free all throughout town. |
Is this a local law, or something? Or does it have something to do with cost? | I don't know but I suspect it's cost-related. Most table games have a 5 dollar minimum bet with a dealer to keep action moving. An undercover cop on the slots could control the pace. I think it's a waste of money either way. |
Um..why wouldn't the casino cooperate and just give them house chips to bet with and then give them back? Also can you please tell me a good book to learn basic blackjack strategy (I don't like to always sit in front of a computer) | No, the possibility of fraud is far too high to give away money. There really isn't such a thing as "house chips." There are non-denominational chips that are used in roulette as well as specialty chips used for tournament-style play but use of those would blow the cop's cover, obviously. Also, as long as the hookers aren't pestering every player they come across, the casinos don't really mind them so much. They'll need a bed eventually. To learn blackjack strategy (or really any casino game) I'd actually recommend sitting in front of the computer a wee bit longer and visiting wizardofodds.com. It's a great resource for gambling smart. |
What's the most interesting thing that you've ever seen? | That's a big question. It's all VERY interesting. You'll have to be a little more specific. |
Has anyone ever made a scene over losing a large amount of money? | As a dealer, you develop quite thick skin. People will call you names and curse a lot but very few actually cause much of a scene. If a scene is caused, security is usually called and they usually eject them. |
I am going in a couple days with some friends. However, I don't know how to play any of the table games. Do you know any good sites/videos to learn games like poker for a beginner like me? | Actually, many of the major casinos offer free classes that teach you how to play, usually in the mornings from 9-11 am. Many casino games can seem confusing or intimidating. My advice would be to take the free lesson and, if it seems fun, don't be afraid to throw a few bucks on the real thing. Just don't spend all your time in the casinos. |
What's the etiquette for requesting tips? I had a lucky night at the blackjack table and the dealer was being an asshole telling me my "generosity has been outstanding" is it harder work for me to win? fuck that guy. amiright? | You are right. Tips are voluntary and even if we suggest it, we do it in a way that makes you think it's your idea. Some dealers have no tact and that's sad. |
Is it not considered rude to ask a guest to tip though? | Yeah, it is but some still resort to it since many people don't know. Most guests that aren't accustomed to tipping will tip after realizing it's the social norm ("when in Rome") but if coerced into tipping will not be likely to later. |
Are tips pooled? Do you rotate tables? I imagine the tables with larger bets get bigger tips. | Tips are earned on a table-to-table basis when you deal cash games in poker. Table games (everything else requiring a dealer) generally pool tips and divide them equally on a 24-hour timeframe. All dealers rotate into all games (except for Poker, which is usually a completely separate department) at one point or another. Unless there's a generous high roller most of our money comes from the more numerous, smaller tips from low-limit games. |
How does it work with high rollers? Do they carry the cash they bet with? For example, if someone's playing a $500 minimum bet table, I would assume they'd buy in for 10 to 20 bets worth of chips. Do they really just throw 5-10 grand down on the table? And then you call out "Changing ten thousand" and proceed to show every bill to the camera, turn it over, lay it down (and probably cover the entire table 2-3 times over) and then stuff all 100 $100-bills into the cash box? Or do they establish some sort of credit with the casino and just get chips based on that? | They usually get a line of credit for the higher stakes players, yes but you'll occasionally get the high roller that throws up a few grand on the table in cash. I've seen more than a few people carrying 10k bundles around. There's a guy who plays poker down on Fremont Street called The Duke of Fremont Street (you don't say?!) who carries around a violin case full of cash, gold, and gold money clips stuffed with cash. Some people just like the attention. |
Besides the line of credit they often have deposits at the cage where they get their chips or wired it in before they plan to enter a casino. Correct me if I'm wrong, MrVegas. | You speak the truth. |
Do you like Fallout? | Sure do. Big fan of the games. The map of New Vegas is somewhat accurate although not to scale, obviously. |
What is considered a decent tip at a table? Took a reasonable amount of money from the Cosmo a few months ago. I'm a cheap ass who didn't intend to gamble much and finished my trip playing $25 per hand blackjack. If you were my dealer, I hope my tip was appropriate. | Most poker dealers will get a dollar a hand as a tip. Since poker isn't a house game that tip isn't necessarily a "thanks for the lucky hand" but more of a "thanks for moderating the poker game." If you're playing 25 dollars a hand and you are dealt a blackjack, the blackjack will pay 37.50. A common tip on that would usually be the 2.50 but we appreciate a dollar tip/bet. Anything over 5 dollars (that isn't a high-stakes game) would be considered generous. |
Fuck you let's not talk vegas. So tell me. What do you think of ohio? | I've never been there. The astronauts seem to hate it though. |
What did you think of Nick Papageorgio? | That guy from Yuma who works in software? Nice guy. My friend fitted him for a suit once. Although I heard he stole some tourist wallet once. |
Have you ever seen a person or group of people successfully count cards and leave with a profit? Or are they all losers? | I've seen it done to varying degrees of success, it's just not very common anymore, at least in Las Vegas. Most card counting groups operate in smaller Indian Casinos where the dealers are less likely to be trained against it. Opening a brand new casino in an area new to gaming is like ringing the dinner bell for card counters. |
Do you have herpes? | No. Condoms are widely available in Las Vegas and encouraged. |
Is a royal flush really that rare? | The odds of a video poker machine dealing you a royal flush on the deal is a little under 650,000 to 1 (happened to me once). As a poker dealer, I've dealt four in 10 years, although I've run into dealers who've gone their whole careers without dealing one. |
You mentioned that you have been a dealer for 10 years. Do you see yourself doing this until you can retire or do you see yourself moving up? If you want to move up, what do you want to do eventually? | I could easily see myself doing this for awhile. It's fun, easy money and casinos are the best places in the world to people watch. If I moved up I'd probably like to teach dealers. I view dealing as somewhat of an art form and I'd like to reteach the "right" way. |
Is card dealing a specialty? In other words, have you never worked craps or roulette? I'm always amazed at how craps dealers can keep track of everything at a busy table. | Pretty much everyone is called a dealer whether they actually "deal" anything or not. I have worked craps and roulette as well. I'm kind of bad at craps, I'm sorry to admit but roulette's fun. |
What's the deal with the garish, ugly carpets you see in casinos? | I think many of them are just trying to unique. When you line them up right next to each other one mega casino is pretty identical to the next so they have to out-gimmick each other in every way. Also, many casino's carpet is actually coded to indicate areas where minor are and aren't allowed. There's usually a yellow brick road of sorts to registration and elevators. |
Ok, if you see someone thrusting hard, what do you do? | I hope what they're thrusting into is enjoying the attention and I leave them to their business. I'm not sure what you were asking here... |
Are there any films that have accurately portrayed what your business is like? | Not really, in my opinion. I honestly think it could be a decent (can't believe I'm saying this) reality show but the corporations that own the casinos would never let us speak frankly. |
What kind of cards do you use, bicycle?, a deck specific to the casino?, or something completely different? | Most casinos use Kem or Copag cards for poker. Anyone who plays cards at home should pick some of these up. They're pretty difficult to mark, bend resistant, and they're perfect for parties. You can wash them in the sink! Blackjack and other card-based table games generally use custom cards made for the casino. I've never really paid attention to what brand they are since they're changed out so often. |
My wife & I are going in a few months. (4 days/3 nights). I plan on playing/losing ~$100 on roulette and avoiding the card games. We are mostly going for shows (I'll check out those booths you mentioned) & food. One of the days I plan to send her to a spa and I want to check out some sport related gambling. Where is the best place for sports betting? Is there live betting (quick bets as in : Will Verlander strike the next batter out?) | I've always thought the LVH (the old Hilton) has a really nice sports book and their odds have always been fair. The kind of live betting you're looking for is usually the kind of action you'll get from the other patrons in the sports book. The casino doesn't have time to set odds on that short of notice. |
What's the deal with craps? I went on a cruise and they had a video on casino games on a continuous loop and i'd watch the craps session over and over and still not get it. i also went on a little mine-class in the casino, was still drawing blanks. is there a "Explain to me like i'm 5" with craps. | Craps is confusing because the objective of the game changes so frequently and the odds are somewhat strange. Unless you want to go in-depth with game strategy I'd suggest putting your money on the pass line and throwing the dice until they tell you to stop. Not the best advice, I know, but I'm not a huge fan of craps. |
I'll be in Vegas this June, what are the best night clubs? Is it best to buy tickets for the clubs and shows before hand or just go with the flow once I'm there? | It's a little pricey to get in (40 dollars last time I was there, if memory serves me correctly) but the Moon nightclub at the Palms Hotel is pretty damn cool. Open air at the top of the building. I'd buy the club tickets in advance since they're usually the same price. Half-price ticket booth the day of the show you want to see. |
What is the best local restaurant in Vegas? Like, residential area restaurant. | The Asian food out here is great. The Chinatown District on Spring Mountain is packed with awesome food. Just pick one. |
I am going to Vegas for my first time in a couple of weeks. Any tips, advice, where is the most fun to be had for the lowest price? Thanks for doing this AMA! | There are lots of groupons available for Las Vegas. The pinball museum is a cheap way to burn an afternoon. |
Also -is there a proper etiquette when playing with other people (eg Don't hit when a dealer has a bust card), or is it every man for himself? | Proper etiquette is to shore up your hand against the dealer's without harming the other players. Hitting when the dealer is showing a bust card has started more than a few fights that I've seen. Practice basic strategy and try to make sure you're playing with people who do the same. |
Swingers club? | The two popular swingers' clubs are The Green Door and The Red Rooster. Ladies get in free (of course), single men pay a pretty high cover charge, and couples get in for half price. They're... interesting places to meet people. |
If someone is counting cards but is also a generous tipper, do you let him get away with it a little longer? | Tipping is one way of diverting attention and, yes, it does work. However, as I stated elsewhere, card counters have to adhere to certain rules and formulas regarding their wagers. They've made blackjack a business and tipping is bad for business. |
What are some tips to get casino comps? Also what is your favorite buffet in Vegas? (We go to Vegas for the food and right now our Favorite is the Bellagio) | Ask for them. The biggest thing is shyness. There's a lot of people gambling in a casino at any given time so if you want your play to be evaluated for comps, simply tell the dealer or floor manager. I don't eat at the buffets too often. |
Do you prefer I give you straight tip or put your tip down as a wager? | Alternating them isn't a bad way to go. Or you can always ask the dealer. |
What's the strangest thing you've ever seen while dealing? | Wilford Brimley calling me a cocksucker. |
How much do you make per year? | It varies, of course. It averages out to around 38-46k. I'm not a rich man but I enjoy the hell out of life. |
Is it worth doing a hooker? | That's up to you man. I know people who've had bad experiences with them and I've had people who've had great experiences. Not all hookers are diseased and misguided. Some are business-minded and know that they're offering a service and do so professionally. |
What do you think about older smaller casinos. Have you been to the tropicana lately? | I enjoy a lot of the smaller places. The Clarion is a great locals hangout and so is the Greek Isles. I was at the Trop yesterday. They recently remodeled almost the whole place. Looks great. |
I heard the casinos make applicants take a hair test before getting hired...is this true? | Yes, you need to pass a drug test (usually hair) to get hired at nearly all casinos. It's only the one unless you do a union job though. |
So when it comes to poker, "tight is right"? | I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Could you elaborate? |
Thank you for counting my cards when I'm a little slow. | You're welcome. You're there to have fun, not to do simple math all day. |
I hear there are hookers in Vegas. How much would it cost for the hooker and I to get naked, except for sailor hats. Then we get into a Jacuzzi filled with Pepto-Bismol, and I clip her toenails while she shaves my buttocks. | 3000 dollars. |
Prostitution is illegal here in Clark County. Just felt like pointing that out. | I couldn't resist the Rat Race reference. Yes, prostitution is illegal, BUT you can drive about 45 minutes west to Pahrump and get a legal hooker at a brothel. |
Dont a question for you, but this was the best AMA I've read in months! Funny answers, and detailed answers for the serious questions. | Thanks. This is pretty fun, I've got to say. This is my first AMA and I genuinely like informing and entertaining people. It's probably why I love my job. |
Yes, I'm referring to the playing style. Either you place "loose" and play a lot of hands. Or you play "tight" and play far less hands, the best hands. | Poker strategy is slippery and no one credo or saying is right. If you're a beginner it's best to play a little more conservatively but you'll need to able to change gears eventually. |
Unless he was controlling a single deck with both hands, never. | Right answer. |
10% Generous/Grateful 5% A welcome but standard tip 1% Depending on your attitude towards me, may have been an insult, or just a cheapo. | Never feel like a tip is an insult. I make nearly my entire living by people tipping me one dollar at a time. "Cheapos" pay my bills. |
I've personally never heard it but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a common term. Gaming slang is a lot of rhyming and alliteration. I'd much appreciate it if the whole world would please stop saying "Winner, winner Chicken Dinner." | Also, the savvy prostitutes will only pick up guys from table games. Vice cops can play slots undercover to try to lure in hookers but can't play table games. |
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Feather hat Indian or red dot on head Indian? | Native American. |
Would you prefer that I tip you directly or make a bet for you? | I personally would prefer you make the bet for me, but it varies from dealer to dealer. Ask, most houses will let dealer decide. |
What etiquette mistakes to players commonly make to the dealers and other players? | Biggest mistake that I see players make to other players is offering unasked for advice. If someone wants an opinion, or has said that they are new and might need help its ok, but otherwise just let them play their cards. If you don't like the way they play, find another table. As for etiquette toward dealers, just keep in mind that A-we want you to win. If you are losing you are much less likely to tip, and we live off of our tips and B-We don't control the cards, we just deliver them. If you wouldn't scream at the mailman for delivering your bills, don't scream at us if you hit 15 and bust. |
Do most dealers gamble in their free time? | A lot of dealers gamble in their free time, but there on some who don't. |
Has being a dealer made you more or less superstitious? | I can't say that being a dealer has really changed my level of superstition, but it has greatly increased my basic math skills! |
Are you Indian yourself? How do you feel the casinos are for Indians today in general? | Nope, but I think that they are doing well by the casino, and that in turn they do well by the community it is in. I can't say that this applies to all tribes, but the one that I work for has done a lot for the community they live in with the money they've gotten. Opened a health clinic that offers reduced price health care to everyone in the county, spent quite a bit on highway upgrades that they weren't required to, supported many local charities, that sort of thing. |
Have you seen a person actually count? And if so does security thorw them out? | Yes, and not usually. Generally the people that are easy to spot aren't actually good at it, so they don't do very well. I suppose if it became VERY VERY obvious they might, but those people would most likely be in a high limit area, and I don't deal there. |
What is the largest amount of money you've ever seen lost or won at your table? | In one bet, had a guy bet 5,000 and lose. In one night, saw a lady buy in for 100 and leave with 20,000 at the end of 6 hours |
I always expected casinos to be ritzy like in a james bond movie. Then I visited one in CA and it was all depressing, with hundreds of people playing cards who look broke and don't work in the middle of a weekday. Where do your customers get money from? | Well, some of them have regular jobs with irregular hours, some gamble for a living, and grahvity isn't wrong, some of them spend their social security/fixed income here. If you want the ritz/glamour, try Vegas or Atlantic City, some of the nicer casinos there will give you that feel. |
People play Blackjack to be entertained. Are you ever bored when you work? | Sometimes, it really depends on how the players are. If they are talking to me, asking for help, pretty much in anyway interacting with me, then not really. There are some days when I just want to pitch the entire deck of cards and call it quits though :) |
Do your employers ever tell you to load the cards, as in cheat? If so, how dy'a do it? | Nope, as a matter of fact I would get in HUGE trouble if I tried. |
Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Have you seen the movie "21"? How accurate is it? Have you ever seen someone playing with a system at your table? | Have to admit, I HATE that saying! LOL, just cause I hear it soooo often. Never seen 21, but yes, I've seen players with systems. Some are good, some are bad, most of the are BS. |
Could imagine, would annoy the crap out of me after some time, too! What happens when you notice somebody's playing with system? | Depends. If it's truly just a system, and it's working, I congratulate them! If it is a system I know, and it is flawed, I will advise them of the problem with it. People don't seem to realize, as a dealer I don't want you to lose! If you lose, you don't tip, then we are both unhappy. If you win, you may tip me, then we are both happy. Which do you think we prefer? |
Do people ever ask you if "everyday you're shufflin'"? | Some do. I've said it myself a few times, usually gets a laugh. |
Does tipping effect when you shuffle? The casino I play at is single deck and some dealers are super stringent on shuffling if I vary mt bets during the deck. If I'm a goood tipper are you more inclined to let me get away with it? | Not at my casino. We have very strict rules as to when we have to shuffle, and very little leeway. If you are tipping well and the deck is going badly I would offer to shuffle sooner, but once the cut card (at my casino it is a red plastic card, clearly different than the playing cards) comes out, as soon as that hand ends we must shuffle. I have once or twice accidentally done an extra hand, but that is the most I've done. As for varying your bet, wouldn't effect me at all. Also thank you for tipping!!!! |
Is it true that you don't have to be 21 in order to play at an Indian Casino? | Depends on the casino. We used to have a casino relatively close to here that was 18 and up, but they recently went to 21. It is entirely dependent on the contract worked out between the tribe running the casino and the local government. |
Are many players rude or disrespectful when they lose? Are they rude in general? Do you have the power to kick someone from your table if they're misbehaving? | Some are. Really, it depends if they can afford to lose. Most people are polite, or at least quiet. If someone gets really bad I can ask my floor manager to have them leave. If they won't leave when the floor tells them to, security will generally escort them out. For the most part, I find that the other players will shame people out of being too big of a**holes. A little bit of complaining is fine, but I actually had someone throw something at me once. He was banned from the casino for life as far as I know. |
What's the best way to get a whore at the casino? | No idea! |
What are your thoughts on the Martingale (Doubling your bet after every lose)? | Then I would say that if you've lost 3-5 hands in a row, bet a little larger on your next few, because statistically you are likely to get a good hand. |
Can you tell when people are counting cards? | Usually, mostly because they aren't as good at it as they think they are |
How strict are they, concerning whom they hire? | Depends on how you mean. As far as I know they won't hire anyone convicted of a felony, though that may depend on the circumstances/how long ago. I know they hire people with HORRID credit, 'cause that's me! |
Is it dumb to buy insurance? Best way to get a buffet comp when broke? | I usually don't bother with insurance, because if you lose that and win your bet, you are still only making half the money. As for the buffet comp, at my casino, make sure you get and use your players card, always the points can add up quickly. |
What casino? | Red Hawk casino, placerville CA. |
What do you make an hour before tips? | Before tips I make just a bit over 8/hr. I'm still a relatively inexperienced dealer (approximately 3 years) |
Do you "go for your own" or have to pool the tips? | We pool our tips, which I vastly prefer. |
Do you find that the native american casinos are more harsh on their employees since technically they have sovereign nation rights and don't have to obey state and federal laws in regard to workers? | I've never had that experience, no. Actually, this is probably the best treatment I've ever received at a job, but I previously worked mostly retail. |
Do you have to work all the odd holidays? | I do work most holidays, which is kind of understandable. After all, holidays are when people have time to go out and do things, right? |
Are you making > $125K a year in CA? | I am only part time, so I make quite a bit less than 125K. If I were working full time I would make approximately 40K. I know that dealers can make considerably more than that, but the casino opened as the economy was tanking, so..... |
The single deck games usually pay 6:5 for blackjacks, which make them unprofitable for a card counter. On the double deck games, how deep do you guys usually deal? 50%? More? | Single deck is 6:5, which is why I generally prefer double. We are required to place the cut card with a minimum of 15 cards on single deck, and 1/2 a deck on double, beyond that it depends how many players I have on my game. My main objective is to be sure that I never run out of cards on the last hand. |
Do you realized that you are taking all of nevada business? forcing us to change the way our state makes money, it is a bad and a good thing. Have you ever delt in Vegas or Reno? | Never dealt in Vegas or Reno but we have quite a few dealers here who have, and I do know that we are taking quite a bit of business from Nevada, but I can't say I feel bad. After all, we need to make money too, right? :) I do hope that Nevada can find other ways to make income though, I like the state quite a bit. |
How do you play craps? What are the rules and objectives? | Sadly, I have no idea! I deal Blackjack (single deck, double deck, 8 deck shoe and a variant called Switch), 3 card poker, 4 card poker, Let it Ride, and Ultimate Texas Hold 'em. |
What are the tips like for dealers? Is it a good job for a college student? Is there demand for dealers? | Well, the tips I make range between $8-$12/hr. That is in addition to the base pay for me, which is a little over 8 an hour. It can be a really good job for a college student, depending on where you are. It is an awesome job if you like dealing with people, but the training can be kind of pricey if the casino/card room won't train you. |
Did you have to go to some sort of card dealing school before hand? Or, did the casino just train you how to deal cards properly? | The casino trained me, because they were new. I know they do rarely offer training to outside people, but this casino prefers to promote from within. If you can't afford to go to dealer school, I would say get on with a casino in a non-dealing position and watch for the next time they are going to offer training |
Any proof? | Will happily prove it, if you can tell me how to! :) |
I've always considered dealing cards for work, it seems fun, and I hear the pay is good. What are your thoughts? Is it difficult to know how to play a hand, or are you required to follow specific guidelines? Are there opportunities for advancement? Do the players ever become unreasonable, and how do you deal with that? | I love my job, and I think the pay is reasonable (works out to be about 20/hr) If you like working with people, don't mind noise and smoke and don't get too upset by jerks, then it is a great job. We are required to follow specific guidelines, so there isn't really any decision making so far as hands are played. Stay on hard 17+, hit on soft 17 or less. There are MANY opportunities for advancement, as a matter of fact a lot of the people that started training with me are now floor managers, and our Shift supervisor (that would be the pit bosses boss) started as a dealer. Players are sometimes rude/unreasonable, of course. So long as they aren't too bad, I just ignore it/try to jolly them into a better mood. If they get abusive/distracting to other players/dangerous, security will remove them from my table, or possibly the entire casino. |
How much do you make from tips in your average hour? | Average tips are 8-15/hr. |
Do you get to keep all of the tips? how much do you usually make in tips on a night? | We do a tip pool in 24 hr rotation. We average between 8 and 15 $ an hour in tips per night. |
Why won't they let us play dice games? | CA law states that all table games must involve cards, thus having Roulette and Craps with cards instead of ball/dice. |
Have you played any blackjack or otherwise gambled yourself? Any luck? Do you think you're an expert, after watching so many games? | I'm not allowed to play tables at my casino, so I don't play often. I do believe I know what I'm doing, and rarely leave down, so I guess? |
Is it true that Casinos do not actively monitor people real time inside with the cameras? I hear they only use them to retroactively monitor, meaning that if something fishy is up, they will use the video to check back to see what the person did or something. I guess this makes sense in terms of operational costs, but to me it seemed like I always thought casinos hired 100 pple just to sit and watch screens all day.. with each person having like 20 screens.. Is this something you know about? | I'm not in security, so I couldn't really say, sorry! |
When you get table fills how often do you hear some HILARIOUS AMD WITTY player say "Hurr hurr, they don't need that! They're already taking all our money hurr hurr!"? | Sigh* FAR to often! I wish there weren't so many idiots in the world! Still, most people get that I only get to keep what they give to me, not the house. |
Any plans to get some experience and then make it to vegas? | I have no plans on going to Vegas, mostly because my family/friends/life are all here. Also, we have a few dealers that were from Vegas who moved here to be dealers, and from what they've told me, I wouldn't like it. |
Ever have someone who you can tell is not all there lose it all on your table, how did you react? | I have, and so long as they seem to be with it enough to be alone in public, I do my best to treat them the same as anyone else. I try to be sympathetic if they are upset, but i can't not take the money, so... |
Why did the dealer check with the boss when I hit on hard 13 vs 7? | Just hitting on a hard 13? No idea, I would never have to do that. If you were doubling down I would call, because there is the possibility that you will bust, and the possibility that you are trying to count, since otherwise most people wouldn't do that. |
How do you deal with all the people smoking cigarettes? does it get really bad? | Depends on what shift you are on. I'm Sunrise (graveyard) so it isn't too bad, but it can get pretty thick on Swing. I guess I'm just used to it. |
Do successful gamblers actually get groupies like in the movies? If so, how often do you see them? | They can/do, and every damn day! |
What is the strangest thing that you've ever seen while working there? | Well, wasn't something I personally saw, but a friend of mine had a guy that was so into the game he refused to leave the table for any reason. Was wearing an adult diaper. Shit himself at the table and kept playing until he was made to go clean himself up by security due to the biohazard. |
What was your training like? | Well, I was in training 4 hrs a day, 5 days a week for about 8 weeks, but they were teaching us quite a bit more than the standard. I believe a basic school can teach BJ in about 3 weeks. Roulette and Craps would be a few months |
I'm a craps dealer over in CT. And i've been thinking about finding some place new. What's your toke rate? | We get about 8-15/hr, but if you are looking in the area I'm in there are a few older casinos that get better tokes. Try looking up Thunder Valley or Jackson Rancheria. |
So I've been told to bet with the bank, bet with the player, and that 9 is a natural. Can you confirm this as correct? | Well, assuming that you are talking about baccarat, I believe that 8 and 9 are both natural, but I don't deal the game, so I can't answer the rest of the question. |
As someone who doesn't really play cards or gamble but wants to try. Should I play blackjack or play roulette? | Depends, do you want something totally random or something with a little bit of strategy? Random, Roulette, Strategy, BJ. |
Has anyone ever counted cards at your table? | Yeah, quite a few people have tried. When you double down on 20 and get an Ace, its kinda obvious! |
Do you have the light, or do you peek at your down card? | We peek, have a mirror that we see the card reflected in so that we don't have to bend it. |
In my experience, the only luck I have using a system is when the deck penetration level is around 75% on 6-8 decks. How much of the entire deck do you go through in a game? | Depends on the number of decks. 8 deck shoe, I'd say we go through about 75% of the shoe. |
How much bullshit to you have to deal with on a daily basis? | I have not the words to express the amount!!! Of course, not all of that is at work :) |
Have you ever wanted to literally "hit" someone? | Of course! |
Native American you mean? | Sorry, didn't think before I titled it! Hate not being able to edit that, but yeah, that is what I should've said |
Before you venture out to any casino, take a moment to read this article and brush up on your casino tipping etiquette skills. This way, you won’t look like a loser when you have nothing left in your pockets to take home and nothing left to leave with the casino staff members. Play Online Poker for Real Money Following up on his introduction to poker room personnel, Robert Woolley continues his "Casino Poker for Beginners" series with some tips about tipping. Etiquette also dictates that you should tip a waitress or waiter at least $1.00 every time the individual delivers a drink to you in a casino, regardless of the game you are playing. The whole tipping story starts right when you arrive at the casino. If you want to save a few bucks, most places will let you self-park your car without the assistance of a valet. Some casinos, though, don’t offer self-parking and require everyone to valet their car (which is a bit annoying). In a casino, you don't just walk up to a table and sit down. When you enter the poker room you must sign in at the desk. You tell the host what game you are interested in playing. If there is an opening you will be seated immediately. If the table is full they will take your initials and call you when there is an opening. After all, if there were no dealers, there would be no poker game. So how much do you tip in a cash poker game? There are no set rules, so it depends on the size of the game and the pot. In a normal small limit Texas hold’em game, say $2/4, $3/6 or $4/8, tipping $1 or $2 for a normal pot is acceptable. As with much of the USA’s ridiculous service industry, casino hosts are severely underpaid and require tips from patrons in order to make a liveable wage. Gamblers should tip casino hosts 15 – 20% of their buy-in, and you should also budget to tip wait staff, hotel staff, valets, and those making change for players.
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